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England are honestly the best by a mile imo. THough their fast bowlers don't tend to be that good. India and Aus both have a few errors in their system

(05-24-2022, 01:10 PM)slcricfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2022, 12:44 PM)stillwill Wrote: [ -> ]ICC tournaments are meant to have "neutral pitches" so they make the pitch flat. If you can practice and learn from difficult condition, they can do well in easier conditions right ? Also it helps in ODI when playing in SENA countries. Flat pitches dont offer much advantage to fast bowlers, it just makes them bowl more and get injured. For spinners, sure.

Not necessarily though. Which conditions do you count as difficult in world cricket right now? Top teams such as India and England all play most of their domestic cricket in flat pitches. Australia don't but outside the what top 6 or 7 batters in the country or so, there's not that much depth. Surely death bowling and stuff get improved on when quicks are under huge stress to not get smashed.

Indian FC pitches aren't flat like before and I can't speak for England. English conditions are challenging for batsmen, lot more movement, so they are forced become better. India has 20% of the world's population, just going by law of average, they will have more guys who are good. SL doesn't have large talent pools. Making the pitch difficult for the batsmen will allow them to get good and be more disciplined. Disciplined batsmen are generally good. I'm not a fast bowler so I can't really talk for the fast bowlers on flat pitches, my thinking is not to have them bowl on dead pitches in FC a lot and get injured. SL fast bowlers are very injury prone, so that's what my thinking is. For spinners, flat pitches are good, it forces them to beat batsmen in flight and accuracy.

(05-24-2022, 01:30 PM)stillwill Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2022, 01:10 PM)slcricfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not necessarily though. Which conditions do you count as difficult in world cricket right now? Top teams such as India and England all play most of their domestic cricket in flat pitches. Australia don't but outside the what top 6 or 7 batters in the country or so, there's not that much depth. Surely death bowling and stuff get improved on when quicks are under huge stress to not get smashed.

Indian FC pitches aren't flat like before and I can't speak for England. English conditions are challenging for batsmen, lot more movement, so they are forced become better. India has 20% of the world's population, just going by law of average, they will have more guys who are good. SL doesn't have large talent pools. Making the pitch difficult for the batsmen will allow them to get good and be more disciplined. Disciplined batsmen are generally good. I'm not a fast bowler so I can't really talk for the fast bowlers on flat pitches, my thinking is not to have them bowl on dead pitches in FC a lot and get injured. SL fast bowlers are very injury prone, so that's what my thinking is. For spinners, flat pitches are good, it forces them to beat batsmen in flight and accuracy.

I mean in t20 not fc. In fc, I`m not sure what the best way to go is

The memo for T20 pitches is for them to be flat. In all international T20 games, they try to make the pitches as flat as possible with true bounce. Its because the crowds are coming to watch the sixes and big shots there.

As far as I know, the problem with domestic pitches in SL weren't that they were flat. The issue was that they were too spinner friendly. They were/are used to be too tilted towards them. So even any part timer can easily get wickets.

To develop cricketers in the domestic circuit (mainly first class) in any country, as far as I understand, it should always be about building balanced pitches maybe slightly bowler friendly. Creating highly challenging pitches to batters doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help build highly skilled batsmen. They won't learn how to build an innings over a long period of time. Nobody would want to open the innings and face the new ball. Even the wobbly medium pacers will become difficult to face and only be found out in the international stage. Bowlers won't learn how to build maiden after maiden and create pressure. How to set up batters. Spinners won't have any clue in how they should play a holding role in the first few days and then master the art of bowling out an opposition in Day4/5. This is exactly what was happening with county cricket. That's why they were so welcoming of the big scores in this season.

What you need is balanced pitches. The game isn't supposed to be heavily tilted to one skill. You also get the best games of cricket when the pitches are really balanced as well and maybe slight pacer friendly.

For T20, broadcasters to everyone dictate that they need to be flat pitches. And if our blokes also don't practice on those, they won't improve. Practicing on challenging wickets doesn't make you a good t20 batter in the kind of pitches you get commonly in international cricket.

(05-24-2022, 01:30 PM)stillwill Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2022, 01:10 PM)slcricfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not necessarily though. Which conditions do you count as difficult in world cricket right now? Top teams such as India and England all play most of their domestic cricket in flat pitches. Australia don't but outside the what top 6 or 7 batters in the country or so, there's not that much depth. Surely death bowling and stuff get improved on when quicks are under huge stress to not get smashed.

Indian FC pitches aren't flat like before and I can't speak for England. English conditions are challenging for batsmen, lot more movement, so they are forced become better. India has 20% of the world's population, just going by law of average, they will have more guys who are good. SL doesn't have large talent pools. Making the pitch difficult for the batsmen will allow them to get good and be more disciplined. Disciplined batsmen are generally good. I'm not a fast bowler so I can't really talk for the fast bowlers on flat pitches, my thinking is not to have them bowl on dead pitches in FC a lot and get injured. SL fast bowlers are very injury prone, so that's what my thinking is. For spinners, flat pitches are good, it forces them to beat batsmen in flight and accuracy.

What do u know about pitches and conditions podiyans?

Make flat tracks for domestic T20 because that's what you get in T20I most of the time. This is the best way to go for both batters and bowlers to prepare for international matches.

Brief scores of matches played yesterday in the T20 tournament.

Sinhalese Sports Club vs Sri Lanka Air Force Sports Club

Sinhalese Sports Club 159/5 (16)

Dasun Shanaka 62, Shevon Daniel 35, Krishan Sanjula 34

SL Air Force Sports Club119/7 (16)

Movin Subasingha 33, Sahil Dias 25, Kavindu Nadeeshan 3/41, Dasun Shanaka 2/07

SINHALESE SPORTS CLUB WON BY 40 RUNS

Saracens Sports Club vs Ace Capital Cricket Club

Saracens Sports Club 105/9 (20)

Sithara Gimhan 21, Thanuka Dabare 4/15, Ashan Dilhara 2/20

Ace Capital Cricket Club 107/2 (16.2)

Shehan Fernando 31, Harsha Cooray 30*, Pramud Hettiwatte 25*

ACE CAPITAL WON BY 8 WICKETS 

Badureliya Cricket Club vs Colombo Cricket Club

Badureliya Cricket Club 154/6 (20)

Ravija Sandaruwan 54, Gihan Rupasinghe 52, Dunith Jayatunga 21, Nuwan Thushara 3/32

Colombo Cricket Club 121/7 (17.2)

Lasith Abeyratne 62*, Pawan Pathiraja 33, Senal De Silva 2/22, Chathura Randunu 2/25

BADURELIYA CRICKET CLUB WON BY 11 RUNS (D/L METHOD)

Galle Cricket Club vs Kurunegala Youth Cricket Club

Galle Cricket Club 107/9 (20)

Tharindu Amarasinghe 26, Lahiru Jayaratne 2/15, Dananjaya Premaratna 2/18, Nilanka Premaratne 2/30

Kurunegala Youth Cricket Club 67 (16.2)

Sandun Madushanka 3/07, Ravishka Wijesiri 3/26, Chathura Lakshan 2/06

GALLE CC WON BY 40 RUNS

Sri Lanka Army Sports Club vs Bloomfield Cricket & Athletic Club

Sri Lanka Army Sports Club 154 (19)

Lakshan Edirisinghe 33, Himasha Liyanage 30, Ashan Randika 25, Asela Gunaratne 22, Kavindu Ridmal 4/31, Chanaka Komasaru 2/29, Madawa Warnapura 2/36

Bloomfield Cricket & Athletic Club 108/9 (19)

Lahiru Madushanka 31, Yohan Chanuka 25, Asela Gunaratne 3/18, Lakshan Gamage 2/12, Maheesh Theekshana 2/24

SL ARMY SPORTS CLUB WON BY 46 RUNS

Moors Sports Club vs Kalutara Town Club

Moors Sports Club 125/9 (20)

Pasindu Sooriyabandara 58, Inshaka Siriwardena 3/17, Tashik Perera 3/28

Kalutara Town Club 117/9 (20)

Ayana Siriwardhana 2/16, Tilanga Udeshana 2/16, Sandaken Pathirana 2/17

MOORS SPORTS CLUB WON BY 8 RUNS

https://www.thepapare.com/slc-major-club-t20-tournament-2022-roundup-24th-may/

Brief scores of matches played yesterday in the SLC t20 tournament.

Burgher Recreation Club vs Nugegoda Sports & Welfare Club

Burgher Recreation Club 172/6 (20)

Dilan Jayalath 78*, Dushan Hemantha 23, Chaminda Bandara 4/18

Nugegoda Sports & Welfare Club 146/5 (20)

Abishek Liyanarachchi 67, Nayana Fernando 27*, Lisula Lakshan 20, Duvindu Tillakaratne 3/17

BURGHER RECREATION CLUB WON BY 26 RUNS

Ragama Cricket Club vs Panadura Sports Club

Ragama Cricket Club 148/7 (20)

Ishan Jayaratne 50*, Janith Liyanage 35, Thevindu Dickwella 23, Tharindu Kaushal 2/20

Panadura Sports Club 126/6 (13.4)

Tharindu Kaushal 32*, Roshan Wijenayake 26*, Kosala Ravindu 23, Shashika Dulshan 2/30

PANADURA SPORTS CLUB WON BY 4 WICKETS (DLS)

Kandy Customs Sports Club vs Tamil Union Cricket & Athletic Club

Kandy Customs Sports Club 94/6 (20)

Vishva Wijeratne 39, Isuru Udana 2/18

Tamil Union Cricket & Athletic Club 95/0 (13.4)

Navod Paranavithana 50*, Sadeera Samarawickrama 37*

TAMIL UNION CRICKET & ATHLETIC CLUB WON BY 10 WICKETS

Nondescripts Cricket Club vs Chilaw Marians Cricket Club

Nondescripts Cricket Club 111/9 (16)

Ahan Wickramasinghe 31, Upul Tharanga 24, Kaveen Bandara 21, Pulina Tharanga 3/19, Charith Jayampathy 2/18

Chilaw Marians Cricket Club 65/7 (16)

Pulina Tharanga 25*, Sahan Arachchige 3/11, Johanne De Zilva 2/07

NONDESCRIPTS CRICKET CLUB WON BY 46 RUNS

Negombo Cricket Club vs Police Sports Club

Negombo Cricket Club 128//8 (18)

Amoda Widanapathirana 41, Chaturanga Kumara 2/19

Police Sports Club 132/5 (17.2)

Chathuranga Jayathilake 33, Chamara Silva 36*, Chaturanga Kumara 30*, Dilshan Munaweera 3/29

POLICE SPORTS CLUB WON BY 5 WICKETS

Colombo Colts Cricket Club vs Sebastianites Cricket & Athletic Club

Colombo Colts Cricket Club 169/5 (20)

Vishad Randika 59, Sangeeth Cooray 42, Muditha Lakshan 34*, Sachitha Jayathilaka 2/40, Shashrika Pussegolla 2/26

Sebastianites Cricket and Athletic Club 152/6 (20)

Nimantha Perera 42, Shashrika Pussegolla 30, Sachitha Jayathilake 30, Ahmed Khan 25*, Sangeeth Cooray 2/01, Harshana Wickramasinghe 2/30

COLOMBO COLTS CRICKET CLUB WON BY 17 RUNS

https://www.thepapare.com/slc-major-club-t20-tournament-2022-roundup-25th-may/

(05-24-2022, 01:30 PM)stillwill Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2022, 01:10 PM)slcricfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not necessarily though. Which conditions do you count as difficult in world cricket right now? Top teams such as India and England all play most of their domestic cricket in flat pitches. Australia don't but outside the what top 6 or 7 batters in the country or so, there's not that much depth. Surely death bowling and stuff get improved on when quicks are under huge stress to not get smashed.

Indian FC pitches aren't flat like before and I can't speak for England. English conditions are challenging for batsmen, lot more movement, so they are forced become better. India has 20% of the world's population, just going by law of average, they will have more guys who are good. SL doesn't have large talent pools. Making the pitch difficult for the batsmen will allow them to get good and be more disciplined. Disciplined batsmen are generally good. I'm not a fast bowler so I can't really talk for the fast bowlers on flat pitches, my thinking is not to have them bowl on dead pitches in FC a lot and get injured. SL fast bowlers are very injury prone, so that's what my thinking is. For spinners, flat pitches are good, it forces them to beat batsmen in flight and accuracy.

How will fast bowlers not bowling much will prevent them from getting injuries? Isn't that what's happening now? They breakdown immediately in international cricket, when piled on with the heavy workload.

According to Dr. Pete Allen who spoke to Wisden recently, research suggests that a fast bowler needs to bowl a minimum of 1200 overs for their body to get adjusted for fast bowling. Its one of the most intense things in sport and given its repetitive nature its very unique as well. This is probably what cricketers are referring to by saying bowling fitness as well. Gymming isn't the same thing.

And not bowling them and hiding them in domestic games isn't gonna help anyone.

First you need to fix the pitches, make them more balanced. Not too challenging so that batters can also thrive. Otherwise batting also will never improve.

Also pitches that aid fast bowlers help spinners too. That's correct. Not sure what you mean by it makes them work harder and smarter in an earlier post. But in reality what happens is that bounce helps spinners. If it seams - as Warne used to say - it spins too. So turn and bounce. That's why its helpful!

You say highly challenging conditions have helped English batters to be more disciplined. Well have you been watching international cricket in the last 12-18 months? It doesn't work that way.